Wondering about emulation in the future...

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Deshi

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I recently read that the last release of the 3 Mario for the 35th anniversary instead of being remastered were actually emulated... Does it mean that soon a hacking genious would retro ingeniered a "perfect" series of emulator for n64, gc and wii ?
I know retroarch does a decent job with n64 but until now I haven't seen anything good for gc or wii.

As the title said, just wondering...
 
There's already a N64 emulator that works pretty well on Switch.

As far as using Mario Anniversary so far the answer is no. It could change or not change. I think I read Wii is very unlikely.
 
Hi there,
Personnaly I got mixed results with emulated n64 : 1080 ok, OoT little stuttery... maybe I just need to be more willing to play with settings.

That kind of programming skills is so far from what I know that I guess I just overhyped myself thinking that a "wizard" of the hacking scene could get from these games the parts needed to emulate other gc and wii games.
 
I was pretty sure it would happen in the beginning. Not I'm not as sure. I'm sure there are people trying as we speak.

You need to overclock Retroarch to get good speeds for N64. It won't hurt your Switch. Also always use title redirect by holding R1 on a Switch game to get extra Ram. Both of these together should give you better results. Not saying it's 100% perfect for all N64 roms though.
 
Deshi said:
I recently read that the last release of the 3 Mario for the 35th anniversary instead of being remastered were actually emulated... Does it mean that soon a hacking genious would retro ingeniered a "perfect" series of emulator for n64, gc and wii ?
I know retroarch does a decent job with n64 but until now I haven't seen anything good for gc or wii.

As the title said, just wondering...
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Most highly not. Even though people find some hardware stuff within gigaleaks it's still gonna run like crap as we probably never going to get our hands on switch's internal stuff.

But for the good news, Nintendo is making emulators for their own consoles is not a bad thing. That basically means more wii/gc stuff are going to be ported. Can't wait for the GC Pikmin and Metroid series. For the emulation quality I think it's way better than anything else out there. Mario 64 running wayyyyy better than the unofficial port. And the unofficial one is literally a port. So that's kinda good news about it

btw, if you wanna learn more about it, you can check out Modern Vintage Gamer who has quite extensive knowledge. If I'm not wrong he also did the chocolate doom port for switch which is available on homebrew appstore (and I'm guessing that he's already active on switch hacking scene with a completely different alias)

he already made two videos before and after the leak



 
Deshi said:
I recently read that the last release of the 3 Mario for the 35th anniversary instead of being remastered were actually emulated... Does it mean that soon a hacking genious would retro ingeniered a "perfect" series of emulator for n64, gc and wii ?
I know retroarch does a decent job with n64 but until now I haven't seen anything good for gc or wii.

As the title said, just wondering...
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N64 emulator is ok on horizon via retroarch
For gamecube you need lakka it's just an image
That's copy to your sd card and you can dual boot but not many games run very well with the exception of Mario sunshine that's pretty much full speed probably why Nintendo used it
bear in mind the switch just isn't powerful enough to run the gamecube emulator at a decent speed even with overclocking the cpu and gpu
Retroarch on horizon only let us overclock cpu but lakka let us overclock both cpu and gpu
Only down side with lakka is its handheld mode only doesn't work in docked mode something to do with the bluetooth driver as it runs on linux
 
BTW m4xw the guy who has done all the 3d emulators for Retroarch Switch said "injections are dead" for this. So don't count on anything coming from it.
 
Thank you all for the info... i've got a lot to test and try :biggrin:
 
Has anyone here tested the 'private' 3DS Citra core for RetroArch that m4xw has available for his patreons ? How does it perform ?
 
mspy said:
Has anyone here tested the 'private' 3DS Citra core for RetroArch that m4xw has available for his patreons ? How does it perform ?
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3ds does not run well on the switch
You can test it yourself just google and download lakka
It run better then the standard retroarch switch version and you can emulator gamecube but 3ds and gc are very hungry on cpu /gpu lakka unlike retroarch has the ability to overclock cpu and gpu just dont go to far
All you need is a spare memory card
Just dont expect to much
Games like game cube Mario sunshine run ok
Probably why Nintendo emulated it them self
Stuff like Simpsons hit and run your looking at 15 - 20 frames per second
 
It's alright some games work others don't. 3D Heavy games usually won't work but games like rpgs work ok. There was a later update in December for patreons but I've never tried that. I have a gaming PC that plays Citra much better now that I got in the summer so it's just better for me to use Citra on PC.

If you really want to try it here it is this is the one from June.

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1tnU2YPpO_Hky7daVNgj4w_EoZnl-Hg1U

: Go to the retroarch folder on the root of your sd card
2:Go to the cores folder
3: Drag and drop the NRO into the cores folder
4: Get legally (lol) obtained roms by dumping them of the cart on a hacked 3ds
5: Decrypted rom/roms. There are tutorials on YouTube
6: Boot into your CFW
7: Open Retroarch
8: CPU overclock > High or Maximum performance to stop slow downs and other things [WARNING, PLAYING ON AN OVERCLOCKED SWITCH FOR TOO LONG CAN CAUSE PERMANENT DAMAGE. WHEN DONE PLAYING, GPU OVERCLOCK BACK TO STOCK PERFORMANCE]
9: Load content 10: Find your legally (lol) obtained decrypted 3ds roms
11: It should work now. Keep in mind that not all games will work properly. There will be slowdowns, glitches, and other things like miis not loading.
 
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prb said:
3ds does not run well on the switch
You can test it yourself just google and download lakka
It run better then the standard retroarch switch version and you can emulator gamecube but 3ds and gc are very hungry on cpu /gpu lakka unlike retroarch has the ability to overclock cpu and gpu just dont go to far
All you need is a spare memory card
Just dont expect to much
Games like game cube Mario sunshine run ok
Probably why Nintendo emulated it them self
Stuff like Simpsons hit and run your looking at 15 - 20 frames per second
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It's odd that an emulator would run better under Linux than under Horizon itself. You can also overclock your RA with tools like sys-clk and use it with tesla I guess.

JayMathis said:
It's alright some games work others don't. 3D Heavy games usually won't work but games like rpgs work ok. There was a later update in December for patreons but I've never tried that. I have a gaming PC that plays Citra much better now that I got in the summer so it's just better for me to use Citra on PC.

If you really want to try it here it is this is the one from June.

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1tnU2YPpO_Hky7daVNgj4w_EoZnl-Hg1U
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Thx for this! Thou I heard that there is a much better newer version from January which also includes canary build and all.
 
mspy said:
It's odd that an emulator would run better under Linux than under Horizon itself. You can also overclock your RA with tools like sys-clk and use it with tesla I guess.


Thx for this! Thou I heard that there is a much better newer version from January which also includes canary build and all.
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Trust me my friend I've done loads of tutorials and a thread with over 6000+ games to download for retroarch on the switch
And yes it does run better under linux as it's much much much lighter on the system and as I said you can over clock cpu only via standard retroarch on the switch and lakka lets you overclock them separately
Check this out

https://ayakalounge.me/threads/full...-plus-dc-psx-psp-game-packs-6000-games.41893/
 
prb said:
Trust me my friend I've done loads of tutorials and a thread with over 6000+ games to download for retroarch on the switch
And yes it does run better under linux as it's much much much lighter on the system and as I said you can over clock cpu only via standard retroarch on the switch and lakka lets you overclock them separately
Check this out

https://ayakalounge.me/threads/full...-plus-dc-psx-psp-game-packs-6000-games.41893/
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Well I'd very much prefer to run my games via a simple homebrew instead of having to boot an entire OS just to run them and if only 3DS and GameCube games are giving problems I can live with that.

btw have you really tested the latest Citra core by m4xw dated last January with the most recent version of Atmosphere giving it full ram access and using the aforementioned sys-clk tool to overclock your cpu/gpu/mem https://github.com/retronx-team/sys-clk ?

Also there's also the possibility of running Android on the Switch but I'm not sure about how viable is to run emulators on it via this way.
 
mspy said:
Well I'd very much prefer to run my games via a simple homebrew instead of having to boot an entire OS just to run them and if only 3DS and GameCube games are giving problems I can live with that.

btw have you really tested the latest Citra core by m4xw dated last January with the most recent version of Atmosphere giving it full ram access and using the aforementioned sys-clk tool to overclock your cpu/gpu/mem https://github.com/retronx-team/sys-clk ?

Also there's also the possibility of running Android on the Switch but I'm not sure about how viable is to run emulators on it via this way.
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Tbh you should always give full ram access to retroarch this is done via holding Down r1 and booting any switch game this will take you to homebrew menu and then you can boot retroarch with full ram access
Or just use the nsp from my thread nsp forwarding
I haven't tried the very latest version of the 3ds core (January)
But emulation on the switch is limited by its hardware and it will run better in docked mode
As the switch runs in a low power mode when using handheld this is why it's ok to overclock in handheld mode to boost but it will impact on your battery
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As far as android goes I've had it running on my switch dual boot it's ok no better then lakka for emulation but you can play android games at full speed
Its does have loads of bugs and downsides
No direct access to memory card
Lots of errors
Not all apps and games run
Power management is rubbish
And reboot2payload doesn't always work this basically reboots to rcmmode so you dont need a pc or dongle to get back to atoms
 
I also heard good things about L4T Ubuntu, you have to install your emulator of choice just like you would in a normal OS but aside from that it seems to have some improvements overall and support more features (granted that it might not be the case for all emulators). Here's a quick look of the Dolphin emulator running on both Ubuntu and Lakka I found on youtube
 
mspy said:
I also heard good things about L4T Ubuntu, you have to install your emulator of choice just like you would in a normal OS but aside from that it seems to have some improvements overall and support more features (granted that it might not be the case for all emulators). Here's a quick look of the Dolphin emulator running on both Ubuntu and Lakka I found on youtube
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Personally I always test stuff myself
Real world is always different compared to videos
Stuff like memory card speed free space handheld mode docked mode makes a difference
My advice to you is to just try different os linux/lakka and so on and see what works best for yourself
 
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